Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at $300+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at $300+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> Comments on: because no, the revolution will not be grant-funded http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114 another shapeshifter living among the digital masses Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:01:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: brownfemipower http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-489 brownfemipower Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-489 i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually "policy" must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn't it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on 'policy' that we need to unravel and discuss? I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don't need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it's harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can't limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can't say, well, I'd like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i'm not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable. i dunno, i tend to shy away from the idea that eventually “policy” must be made. I think the more important starting place it ask why is policy even necessary to begin with. Could the same thing be done without policy in place? If yes, why isn’t it being done? If not, why not? is there something behind our dependency on ‘policy’ that we need to unravel and discuss?

I think that when we ask ourselves these questions, the we don’t need to ask with any expectation of what to finally *do* about the issue we are questioning ourselves on. Maybe, in the end, we do nothing. maybe, in the end, we decide that policy is necessary. Maybe, we decide that it’s harmful and must be changed. Whatever. But we can’t limit our discussion before it even gets started. We can’t say, well, I’d like to change things, but somethings are unchangeable, so i’m not even going to allow myself to grapple with the effects of the unchangeable.

]]> By: cripchick http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-490 cripchick Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:32:25 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-490 diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i'm still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don't think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it's more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT's right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power. what i've really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don't know that it'd work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we've been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them---for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap? belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins* i've been thinking a lot about public policy since it's something i had been planning to go into. you're right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don't believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted. diane, awesome to see you here and hear your thoughts. the book (which again i read only about 20 pages at a time so i’m still in the beginning) says that moving beyond the non-profit industry complex is more about shifting the power back to the people. i don’t think non-profits have to disappear or stop doing work, i think it’s more about making them accountable to the movement instead of considering themselves to be the movement. when i think of things like the 504 sit-ins or ADAPT’s right to ride actions, they came from people power not nonprofit power.

what i’ve really enjoyed locally here in my state is organizing without a big budget, although i don’t know that it’d work on a national level. without having to sell our soul to various organization, we’ve been able to sustain ourselves by having meetings at campuses across the state where we can get a free room, sleeping at people houses, carpooling, trying creative ways to provide accommodations, etc. i think there are ways to be sustainable, our community just need to be creative in thinking of them—for example, do we HAVE to have all our conferences at 0+ hotels when there are places we could meet for free or cheap?

belledame, very thrilled to see your comments here. *grins*

i’ve been thinking a lot about public policy since it’s something i had been planning to go into. you’re right, someone has to make the policy i suppose but i don’t believe policy is the most effective tool for change. then again, i come from a community where policy and advocacy are the only thing that are really promoted.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-491 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:57:33 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-491 anyway, yeah, I'm more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit. anyway, yeah, I’m more aware of the limitations of the nonprofit model from the theatre world, where, yep, pretty much often ends up being like a for-profit theatre in everything except, well, profit.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-492 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:56:23 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-492 also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they're "selling out;" and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I'm biased for a bunch of reasons, but I'm always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it's not money, then it's often something else. But then money's rarely just about money anyway... eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i'm currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later. also, while I definitely get the problem of money=strings, I think there are also traps in the other direction: or, just, well, 1) one has to eat, and I think sometimes people get paralyzed by the idea that no matter what they do, they’re “selling out;” and go into this rather reactionary and anti-materialist/even ascetic mindset which, well, admittedly I’m biased for a bunch of reasons, but I’m always suspicious of 2) there are -always- strings, and ulterior motives. If it’s not money, then it’s often something else. But then money’s rarely just about money anyway…

eh, sorry, part of a longer spiel which i’m currently too lightheaded to be coherent about, more later.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-493 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:16 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-493 but I guess...yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think. On the other hand...well, one, I guess I think there's a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient. The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems. but...as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation...maybe I'm misunderstanding. but I guess…yeah, I can understand the dilemma here, sort of, I think.

On the other hand…well, one, I guess I think there’s a place for reform, even if it may not be sufficient.

The bureaucratization as well as the whole subtle funneling toward elitism and for-profit, those I get as bigger problems.

but…as for policy making: I mean, at some point someone does have to make policy, no? Even if it were in a radically different form from the ones we have now: at some point one needs legislation…maybe I’m misunderstanding.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.cripchick.com/archives/114/comment-page-1#comment-499 belledame222 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:47:20 +0000 http://crip-power.com/2007/12/21/because-no-the-revolution-will-not-be-grant-funded/#comment-499 Sounds like a good read. I just picked up "Calling All Radicals" by Gabriel Thompson, which seems more like a kind of 101 primer (which is more where I'm at when it comes to activism). also the Mattilda bernstein Sycamore anthology, "Nobody Passes," which looks -amazing.- Now if only I can make myself finish one of those funny little square things with the paper inside, which seem somehow so much more challenging since I got used to pointnclick and surf and... Sounds like a good read. I just picked up “Calling All Radicals” by Gabriel Thompson, which seems more like a kind of 101 primer (which is more where I’m at when it comes to activism). also the Mattilda bernstein Sycamore anthology, “Nobody Passes,” which looks -amazing.- Now if only I can make myself finish one of those funny little square things with the paper inside, which seem somehow so much more challenging since I got used to pointnclick and surf and…

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